Both of the new leaders joined in August. Those are Alice Katwan, who holds the revenue job, and Eva Krauss, the transformation leader. Katwan was more recently SVP for North America for Twilio from January 2021 through April 2023, and before that she was SVP of North American sales for Salesforce from April 2019 through December 2020. She almost has more extended tenures at Genesys and Red Hat. Krauss previously worked for Sovos from August 2013 through March 2017. In the interim, she worked for nearly six years at Pegasystems, most recently as VP of strategy and transformation from August 2021 through December 2022.