Then, there is Olsen Thielen Technologies, which has severed its connection with the accounting firm of that name and gone out under the owners, the former unit management, as St. Paul, Minn.-based OTT Inc. This is an equal-opportunity realignment. Faye Pollack was a Sage reseller, Olsen Thielen and CBIZ handle Dynamics GP. VARs are going to continue to move out of the Sage and Microsoft channels as the emphasis increase there on larger resellers. This ought to give the newcomer companies that are recruiting channel some prospects. We are also seeing the continue exit of CPA firms from the business.